Hello, something is not right with the Recipe Properties in a few of my (not all) recipes. For example, in my latest recipe titled "Gr23***Oatmeal, Milk and Honey (Hanger Swirl)", the Saturated to Unsaturated Ratio is showing as 26:74. However, my hard oils and butters make up 60% of the recipe and the liquid oils make up 40%. Can you please take a look? Thank you, Suzanna
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Not all hard oils are equal- so that could be right. It depends on the type of fatty acids they have. Do you have link to the recipe?
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These are basic hard oils:
coconut oil 20%
palm oil 30%
shea butter 5%
coco butter 5%
Also, I have used this recipe before, and the ratio was correct at 41:59
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These are basic hard oils:
coconut oil 20%
palm oil 30%
shea butter 5%
coco butter 5%
Also, I have used this recipe before, and the ratio was correct at 41:59
Here's a link: Soapmaking Friend - Soap Recipe Builder, Calculator & Community
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Thank you. so the recipe is essentially the same, except a much larger batch, some honey, colloidal honey and silk? No other fats/oils or changes, correct? I need to send this over to the developer and want to be clear on that.
Yes, that's correct. Only other change is increased water to lye ratio a bit from 1.8 to 2.0.
There are a few other recipies with this problem. For example, this recipe which has 61% hard oils but the Sat to Unsat ratio shows 31:69 : Soapmaking Friend - Soap Recipe Builder, Calculator & Community
as compared to the exact same recipe with correct ratios: Soapmaking Friend - Soap Recipe Builder, Calculator & Community
Thank you for your help.
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Thank you for your patience, as it took a while to find the issue. While the recipes are basically the same, there is a major difference. We looked at those two recipes specifically.
The two recipes are not quite using the same oils. The Autumn Leaves recipe uses the built-in “Palm Oil”, while the Oatmeal, Milk and Honey recipe uses a custom oil called “Palm Oil, no stir”. A custom oil is one your added yourself usually. That custom oil has no fatty acid values filled in, so the calculator has nothing to count for 30% of the recipe, and that is why the Saturated : Unsaturated ratio and the other properties come out low. Batch size, honey, oatmeal and silk have no effect on those numbers.
There are two ways to fix it:
- Edit the custom “Palm Oil, no stir” and enter its fatty acids. You can copy them from the built-in Palm Oil (palmitic 44, stearic 5, oleic 39, linoleic 10, and any others it lists). This fixes every recipe that uses that oil at once.
- Or swap it for the built-in Palm Oil in the recipe.
The custom “Palm Oil, no stir” also has its SAP value set to 0, and that affects more than the properties display. The calculator uses SAP to work out the lye, so in any recipe using that oil the palm portion is getting no lye, and the lye amount shown is too low (around 30% low on this recipe).
Please do not make another batch from these recipes until it is fixed. The simplest fix is to swap the custom oil for the built-in Palm Oil in each recipe. If you would prefer to keep the custom oil, edit it and copy the SAP value and the fatty acids from the built-in Palm Oil.
If you have already made a batch from one of these recipes, it will not be lye heavy or harsh. It will have far more unsaponified oil than intended, so expect a softer, oilier bar that may not keep as long.
That explains it. Thank you so much! I will fix this today.
